Radical Justice is the Way: Jocelyn Simonson

July 31st, 2025

”It shouldn't be obvious that justice equals cages.”

We discuss how certain radical acts of justice by everyday people challenge the legitimacy of the criminal system and form the underpinning of a new collective legal thought, demosprudence. Collective understanding of justice and safety is changing away from the concept that justice equals cages.

Jocelyn Simonson is Professor of Law at Brooklyn Law School, a former public defender, and the author of Radical Acts of Justice: How Ordinary People Are Dismantling Mass Incarceration.

Your civic action toolkit recommendations from Jocelyn are:

1. Be a court watcher!

2. Learn about your city’s or county’s budget

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Credits:

Host: Mila Atmos 

Guest: Jocelyn Simonson

Executive Producer: Mila Atmos

Producer: Zack Travis